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Pui pui power level?
Topic Started: Apr 25 2013, 08:05 PM (10,055 Views)
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I've always wondered if pui pui was as strong as Frieza or not... does anyone know his power level (and please compare him to someone else)
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Well I think he is stronger than Frieza,I'm saying this because when Vegetas taik to himshef(kind of strange😀)he said that Majin Buu sounds like something like Frieza,then Supreme kai read his mind and says to him that all of the Kai's killed by Majin buu no sweat and all Kai's could defeat Frieza no sweat,but when Supreme Kai sees Pui Pui he says to fight them together and even worries if he can win,hope I help😄
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pui pui must be more powerful than whatever dabura thought the saiyans were, but he's weaker than vegeta's full base power. he's probably about 85%-90% of vegeta's base, given how easily vegeta defeated him.
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lunar2
Apr 25 2013, 08:19 PM
pui pui must be more powerful than whatever dabura thought the saiyans were, but he's weaker than vegeta's full base power. he's probably about 85%-90% of vegeta's base, given how easily vegeta defeated him.
if pui pui was 90% of vegetas power the fight would be like frieza 100 vs goku ssj I think pui pui was 50 of vegeta base at max
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Apr 25 2013, 08:33 PM
lunar2
Apr 25 2013, 08:19 PM
pui pui must be more powerful than whatever dabura thought the saiyans were, but he's weaker than vegeta's full base power. he's probably about 85%-90% of vegeta's base, given how easily vegeta defeated him.
if pui pui was 90% of vegetas power the fight would be like frieza 100 vs goku ssj I think pui pui was 50 of vegeta base at max
wait you mean the part where goku was distracted, not paying full attention to the fight, and still kicking butt, or the part where he finally started giving it his all and frieza didn't accomplish anything after?

for comparison, this gap is between the gaps from vegeta vs. zarbon and vegeta vs. dodoria. and pui pui did better than dodoria, but not as well as zarbon.

if pui pui was just 50% of vegeta's base, vegeta would have done a vegeta vs. cui. cui was a full 75% of vegeta's power, and was effortlessly destroyed. vegeta doesn't do the toying around like that. he never has. he wouldn't pretend to fight pui pui if he was strong enough in base to just blow him up.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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Apr 25 2013, 08:33 PM
lunar2
Apr 25 2013, 08:19 PM
pui pui must be more powerful than whatever dabura thought the saiyans were, but he's weaker than vegeta's full base power. he's probably about 85%-90% of vegeta's base, given how easily vegeta defeated him.
if pui pui was 90% of vegetas power the fight would be like frieza 100 vs goku ssj I think pui pui was 50 of vegeta base at max
Yeah true Vegeta wasn't even trying to beat him,I said he was using half of his power as well maybe less consider how easy he defeats him
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He should be considerably weaker than Freeza.

The recent movie establishes Freeza's superiority in the universe and confirms that the main characters without Super Saiyan are still inferior to him in power. Therefore, Vegeta in his base state wouldn't have been able to humiliate Pui Pui so effortlessly if he were in fact that strong.
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Apr 25 2013, 08:51 PM
He should be considerably weaker than Freeza.

The recent movie establishes Freeza's superiority in the universe and confirms that the main characters without Super Saiyan are still inferior to him in power. Therefore, Vegeta in his base state wouldn't have been able to humiliate Pui Pui so effortlessly if he were in fact that strong.
the movie, being a movie, does not establish anything. it's not canon. it's a movie. it doesn't matter how many people say it's canon, it is not canon because it is a movie.

or, get this.

restricted base trunks = #18 > ssj vegeta (android saga) > ssj goku (namek) > frieza.

you know what that leaves you with?

restricted base trunks >>> frieza.

so even if the movie was canon, it's still WRONG.
list of canon sources:

the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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I think he's weaker than Frieza. The argument against it is a "he said she said" references to quotes. Plus he thought his 10x gravity was so special while Goku in the beginning of Z mastered it quickly. So far into the series and this guy thinks 10x gravity is something amazing.
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Pui Pui most likely wasn't expecting Vegeta to become immobilized by the gravity, but rather slow him down enough to close what Pui Pui may have thought was a small gap.
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Apr 25 2013, 09:29 PM
I think he's weaker than Frieza. The argument against it is a "he said she said" references to quotes. Plus he thought his 10x gravity was so special while Goku in the beginning of Z mastered it quickly. So far into the series and this guy thinks 10x gravity is something amazing.
because gravity has nothing to do with power, but with physical strength and adjusting to the gravity. kid trunks is hundreds of times more powerful than trunks saga vegeta, but while vegeta mastered 150g, and supposedly has trained in 300g, trunks could barely move in 150g, because he's never done gravity training before.

even a human as physically strong as vegeta would be slowed down by 10g if they'd never experienced it before, and one with his power, but with lesser strength would have difficulty moving their limbs at all.
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the DB manga, and the Dr. Slump manga as it applies to the crossover during the rra saga.

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I consider Pui Pui to be around Android saga SSJ Vegeta, possibly slightly stronger.
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Anyone as strong as Vegeta isn't even going to FEEL 10x. The gravity just adds a lot of weight to your entire body basicely, it's not some kind of magic. I think anyone stronger than Frieza at his best would not rely on something so insignificant at that point. AT must have done it this way to showcase how weak Pui Pui is to be Vegeta's punching bag.
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bardock1990
Apr 25 2013, 09:41 PM
Anyone as strong as Vegeta isn't even going to FEEL 10x.
Gohan in the androids arc could despite the fact that someone like Raditz lived in 10x every day. It's a matter of getting used to it, not having a very high power.
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Apr 25 2013, 08:56 PM
the movie, being a movie, does not establish anything. it's not canon. it's a movie. it doesn't matter how many people say it's canon, it is not canon because it is a movie.

or, get this.

restricted base trunks = #18 > ssj vegeta (android saga) > ssj goku (namek) > frieza.

you know what that leaves you with?

restricted base trunks >>> frieza.

so even if the movie was canon, it's still WRONG.


The movie is only confirming what was already suggested in the manga.

When Kaioshin brings up his kin being capable of defeating Freeza in a single blow, Goku's reaction indicates that it is an impressive feat, something that should only hold true for his base form. Vegeta defeating Pui Pui--assuming he was Freeza's tier--wouldn't make sense based on what was conveyed not too long earlier.

Chapter: 445 (DBZ 251), P14.1-5
Context: after hearing that Boo destroyed hundreds of planets
Vegeta (thinking to himself): “Hmph…Even we Saiyans could do a thing like that…”
Kaioshin: “No, Vegeta. At the time, there were 5 Kaioshins. Any one of them was good enough to defeat someone of Freeza’s level in a single blow…Out of those Kaioshins, 4 were killed by Majin Boo.”
Goku: “Hieeh! A-amazin’…”
Vegeta: “Th-that bastard…So he can even read minds, huh?”
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